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Re: Cruiser Command Tournament 1/6 - 2013

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:49 pm
by WhyteDragon
Cannonfodder wrote:there are three things i learned in this Tournament:

1: if you dont have a good Wraith pilot, its instant GG.
2: if the other team has a good Wraith pilot, you lose.
3: Wraiths are OP and need to be nerfed.
Wraiths do have a large impact upon the game, especially if they manage to make a pick off.

That does not necessarily make them game deciding. I have been forced on multiple occasions to captain games against Zak, who is considered to be an exceedingly good wraith pilot, and still won despite the pain in the ass frustrations of constantly losing miners.

Moreover, there are methods of miners combating wraiths. Even if your wraith isn't quite as good as the opposing team's, with the support of 1-2 mining lasers it can quickly, quickly turn the tide if you play a defensive game.

And even more than that, lets be frank. You can be the best wraith in the world, but if the other team has max wraith damage upgrades, max hull, max SS speed, max energy regeneration, and nanites while you don't, the other guy is probably going to win. Yeah, wraiths are the flashy guys who get a lot of the credit during the early game for ruining economy.

Don't underestimate the power of the wizard behind the curtain though.

Re: Cruiser Command Tournament 1/6 - 2013

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:50 pm
by DumbMarine
Cannonfodder wrote:there are three things i learned in this Tournament:

1: if you dont have a good Wraith pilot, its instant GG.
2: if the other team has a good Wraith pilot, you lose.
3: Wraiths are OP and need to be nerfed.
You can fend off wraiths with triple shot/penta shot lasers.

The corvette is good at fending off wraiths too, especially upgraded.

Early miner upgrades helps out a ton in surviving wraith encounters. Having enough energy to turbo boost alone usually saves the miner.

The best defense against a wraith though is teamwork. Really, your list should include it: teamwork carries the team.

Re: Cruiser Command Tournament 1/6 - 2013

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:45 pm
by HumanLisk
I completely agree with dm. This game is ALL about teamwork, one ping and the coordination of a team to recognize an enemy wraith moving in, the captain giving the necessary upgrades to survive, the miners returning the essential resources, wraith pilots providing safety or a lead in economy, teamwork: everything you need to win.

Re: Cruiser Command Tournament 1/6 - 2013

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:49 pm
by Cannonfodder
i was kidding ;)
however i still think they have a big impact on the game. thanks for your suggestions in combating them. looking forward to the next tournament! and have a good summer Sirentu/Insomni!
WhyteDragon wrote: And even more than that, lets be frank. You can be the best wraith in the world, but if the other team has max wraith damage upgrades, max hull, max SS speed, max energy regeneration, and nanites while you don't, the other guy is probably going to win. Yeah, wraiths are the flashy guys who get a lot of the credit during the early game for ruining economy.
however, while i agree with you, its when they have a good Wraith pilot in a fully upgraded one that the Wraith gets hard to combat because then its literally impossible to win because you dont have the economy which keeps getting picked off by the Wraith. and then when it goes back to its BC and gets five shield generators and one frequency nullifier then its almost impossible to stop, even with a BC. a weapons Drone almost never hits a full-speed Wraith assaulting the battlecruiser, and uses Penta Burst almost exclusively, leaving no energy for the final fight.

even so, well played CCA! its just makes me more motivated to get my revenge! :twisted:

Re: Cruiser Command Tournament 1/6 - 2013

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:19 pm
by WhyteDragon
Cannonfodder wrote:i was kidding ;)
however i still think they have a big impact on the game. thanks for your suggestions in combating them. looking forward to the next tournament! and have a good summer Sirentu/Insomni!
WhyteDragon wrote: And even more than that, lets be frank. You can be the best wraith in the world, but if the other team has max wraith damage upgrades, max hull, max SS speed, max energy regeneration, and nanites while you don't, the other guy is probably going to win. Yeah, wraiths are the flashy guys who get a lot of the credit during the early game for ruining economy.
however, while i agree with you, its when they have a good Wraith pilot in a fully upgraded one that the Wraith gets hard to combat because then its literally impossible to win because you dont have the economy which keeps getting picked off by the Wraith. and then when it goes back to its BC and gets five shield generators and one frequency nullifier then its almost impossible to stop, even with a BC. a weapons Drone almost never hits a full-speed Wraith assaulting the battlecruiser, and uses Penta Burst almost exclusively, leaving no energy for the final fight.

even so, well played CCA! its just makes me more motivated to get my revenge! :twisted:
At the same time, can't you just say that if you're miners don't gather anything and the other team's miners gather everything you're going to lose? All roles play a pretty damn big point in the game. :P